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May 9, 2013


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Let's talk about... Death

Journal Entry: Thu May 9, 2013, 7:11 AM
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Do not stand at my grave and weep,
I am not there; I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow,
I am the diamond glints on snow,
I am the sun on ripened grain,
I am the gentle autumn rain.
When you awaken in the morning's hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circling flight.
I am the soft starlight at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry,
 I am not there; I did not die.
[-Mary Elizabeth Frye, 1932]

Hello my friends. I thought it would be a good time to do another 'Lets' talk about...'.
It is by no means my intention to wake sleeping grief.. my apologies in advance if that happens.

Death: What are your thoughts about it? What do you think awaits us after? How do you feel about it, do you want to "fight it" or do you accept (your own or your close one's)?

As a ravenheart, I'm fascinated and greatly inspired by Death. It lets me see things from a different light. I am a person who, unlike a lot of other people, allows melancholy to fill me from time to time. I don't want to be one of those always-happy-people. I don't want to close my eyes and live blissfully ignorant.
I fully accept Death, be it mine or any others. It's a necessary part of life. Out of death, new life blossoms - that's the way it always was, and that's the way it always will be. Don't get me wrong, of course it affects me like anyone else if a loved one has to go. but I am not.. angry.

Oh, and people really need to tone down in portraying death as 'evil'. :roll:

Now it's your turn. Tell meh!


The questions in german:
Deine  Gedanken zum Tod? Was glaubst du erwartet uns nach dem Tod?
Aktzeptierst du den Tod, oder willst du dich am liebsten wehren (deinen eigenen oder den eines Nahestehenden)?

Previous 'Let's talk about's:
Let's talk about... Why do you draw/write?(I revived this journal because I had like 10 watchers at that time, and a lot of people seem to like my (Let's talk about's"! :) I want to encourage people to chat and of course to know more about my watchers, I care!)
Hey there!
Why the title? Well, I'm curious. Please tell me in a comment! Why do you draw, what do you draw for, or why do you draw exactly what you draw? (so much draw..)
As for myself, I'm mostly drawing to get strong emotions out of my system, the good ones and the bad ones.
That's why you'll always see when I'm pissed or in love, haha.. but I don't think you'll see me in love for the next lifetime :D
But I draw to digest incidents and dreams too, as you can see in the world of Elennya. Most of the characters and stuff that happens came from my dreams. Hell, Lunaris even came to me in my dreams.
Of course I draw because it's fun, too. If I feel like doing fanart or something, I just do it. :D
And, well, what am I drawing for? I am drawing for myself and no ot
Let's talk about... DreamsAll the time they steal my dreams, the ghosts of the past
They whisper on my sorrow, they shout all night long.
But the whispers will not end ...

Hello my friends. So, I did this here some time ago, but I didn't really had watchers there.. But I love writing with you and reading your opinions, so I want to revive this kind of journals. You already now I'm a dreamer...
Dreams... What do they mean to you?  Do you take them seriously? Did ever something weird happen that was somehow connected to a dream you had? Ever had a dream so crazy you can't wrap your head around it? And.. what kind of dreams do you prefer? :D
To me, dreams mean a lot. They often tell me what's best for me, because when I think consciously about something, it usually doesn't end well ^^; And I do take them serious (depending on what kind of dream it was of course). Not in a 'foreseeing'-way, but they help to understand things and problems I have better.
As some of you may know, I "met" Lunaris in a dream
Let's talk about... SoulAnd our troubles quickly vanish
   As the storm-clouds backward roll
From the glory of the spirit,
   And the sunlight of the soul.
__James S. Jennings.
It's been a long time since I did one of these. There are many names for the soul.. but do you think something like this exist? What do you think the soul is? What about reincarnation... do you think the soul is immortal and returns again and again into another life? And do you think we can somehow influence what we become, or if we even become something new?
Yes, I believe in the soul. It's not something you can touch or measure.. It's... your essence. I don't know the words to describe it. I also like to imagine the connection we have to other people as many threads, linking our souls to someone else, or even something else, anything we are emotionally tied to. The thread grows thicker and

Ravenblack greetings

Wotansvogel :blackrose:

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I honestly don't know, but what's the point on dwelling on it? You'll just drive yourself crazy. If we were meant to know, we'd know. What's important is enjoying what we have while we still have it, not throwing tantrums at tiny things (easier said than done, I know. It's so easy to get caught up in stupidly unimportant things).
Wotansvogel Sep 3, 2013  Professional General Artist
I know what you mean. I often find myself being angry or annoyed at small and trivial things, until I remember the time we have here is too short for such wasted energy.
It's interesting to see just how many people think and think and research, even if it's clear that they'll never get answers.. well at least until they see for themselves.
greenytijana Sep 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I accept death.. Faster than many other people. A couple of days ago a dove crashed into our window and died. And my friend who was there was weeping for like 3 hours. I love birds more than her but seriously..
Death is a part of nature. And it's an illusion. Yeah I dunno how to explain what I mean..

I think I accept it faster than other people because I don't really care that much.. I feel like I can live without the one who died. o_e Yeah I know it's weird, and some may call it 'heartless', but I don't get attached to many things.. But even when I do get attached I accept it quickly.
Wotansvogel Sep 3, 2013  Professional General Artist
I don't think it's weird or heartless. Where there's death, new life will blossom. It's okay to mourn a loss, but one shouldn't drown in it, because as you said, it's  a part of nature. it's the way it goes and the way it will always go.  I accept it really fast too, because I have no choice. What's the point when you can't change it anyways? :nod:
greenytijana Sep 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
So true. The most fertile soil is the one on which many living things have died. And if there is no solution, there is no problem. :)
JWArtwork Jun 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Death, well, let's say I don't like it and I don't want to accept it if I see I can fight it. Not because I think I will go to Hell or so, but more the fact that I think everything will be empty and there will be nothing... Not that I will know that when it happens, because there won't be any consciousness either, but the thought still frightens me... :fear:

If I had the opportunity to extend my natural lifespan with 100 years, I'd certainly do it, no doubt. Only if the treatment becomes incredibly physically painful, I might choose not to extend my life if I had to. I don't want to know when I will die, it will only frighten me, I think that goes for many people, only curiosity would win from the fear, I guess.

I don't think anything can drive me to commit suicide (unless I know a granted paradise is waiting on the other side), unless I'm experiencing severe physical pain and/or I've seen many loved ones go. But other than that, no. Pretty much stereotypical, but those are my thoughts on death. :|

Cheers from your neighbour! :wave:
Onix-ceptable May 30, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I kind of like the idea that there is a tree for every person who has ever died, and what remains of their soul helps the remaining ones to survive.
Gewalgon May 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Nur das Fleischliche, die Materie stirbt, die Seele ist unsterblich.
Wer sich nach dem Tod entscheidet auf Erden zu wandeln und seine Liebsten zu schützen, kann dies tun.
Wer sich nach dem Tod entscheidet ins Licht einzutauchen und sich Gottes Urteil zu stellen, kann dies tun.
Wer sich nach dem Tod entscheidet ein neues Leben zu beginnen, kann dies tun.
Unsere Möglichkeiten nach dem Tod sind grenzenlos.
Leben wir in Liebe, im Guten und in Selbstlosigkeit, können wir sogar Engel werden.
Leben wir in Hass, Trauer und Bösartigkeit, können wir sogar Dämonen werden.
Das Sein, auch nach dem Tod, ist ein werden.
Die Art wie wir leben, entscheidet darüber welche Möglichkeiten wir nach dem Tod haben.
Himmel oder Hölle, als Geist weilen oder neues Leben.

Oder vielleicht doch etwas ganz anderes?

Ich fürchte mich nicht vor dem Tod, so viele ich schon erlebte. Ich stehe zu meinen Taten und zu meinen Worten, und vertraue meinem Weg dem ich folge, auch nach meinem fleischlichen Tod.

Ich finde es wichtig auch mit seinen Liebsten über den Tod zu sprechen.
Ich habe auch mit Raym darüber gesprochen. Wenn ich sterbe, wünsche ich mir dass meine Liebsten auf meiner Beerdigung grün tragen. Sie sollen mich nicht in Trauer verabschieden, sondern in Freude, mit den Gedanken an das was wir alles schönes erlebt haben. Ich will sehen dass sie mich in ihrem Herzen tragen, im grünem, so wie sie mich erlebten.

Ein schönes Thema^^
Ich spreche auch sehr gerne mit den Kindern im Kindergarten darüber. Sie sind die besten Philosophen, man glaubt es kaum! :D
SvalaW May 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Das Gedicht ist sehr hübsch. Ich finde es drückt auch sehr gut aus, was meiner Meinung nach dem Tod passiert. So wie der Körper sich langsam auflöst und wieder zu Erde wird, so ist es, denke ich auch mit dem Geist. Man wird wieder eins mit der Natur.
Ich persönlich habe keine Angst vor dem Tod. Was mich traurig stimmt, sind all die Sachen, die man dann zurücklässt: unerfüllte Wünsche, oder Dinge, die man unbedingt noch sagen wollte. Deswegen finde ich es wichtig, dass man hier und jetzt lebt.
Wotansvogel May 14, 2013  Professional General Artist
Ohja, das stimmt. Ich sorge mich nicht darum was mit mir nach meinem Tod ist, ich sorge mich mehr um die, die ich zurücklasse.. Das Leben ist wahrlich zu kurz um es zu verschwenden..
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